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Hi, I am researching my surname and have a come across Chief Superintendent Benjamin Ride who began his career on the 7th October 1845 and served for 28 years. There is an article on the old Mersey Times website regarding Police Pay in 1873 (Liverpool Mercury, Oct 23 1873) in which he is mentioned. I have found him in several census working in the Liverpool area. He was born abt 1815 in St Osythe, Essex and married in 1863 to Eliza Jane Sharpe in 1863.This may be a second marriage. Do you have any information on his career?
i am looking for two people who was police peudiuner in liscad in chester first one was andrew wells from scotland and the other is robert scarisbrick andrew wells is 55 in the 1911 census and robert scarisbrick he was 53 in 1881 census so i wondering if any one got info on these people thank u for read this
It's not easy to serve and protect and be left dying for doing so.
I was a police officer in 1981, I was shot point blank and left to die as the assailant drove off with the police cruiser, turning on the emergency roof lights.
I know the feeling of lying there helpless and hopeless but I survived then to get the booth for doing so.
You may visit my blog and see what happen.
I live in Canada,but was brought up in Wavertree. A murder case in the sixties has always stuck with me and I often wondered if it was ever soved. The victim was a young mother living in Thomas Lane and her three year old child witnessed the killing. It was said that a tiki statue was found on the front lawn. It was a very foggy day (I walked from Bear Brand in Woolton to Wavertree) Thanks.
To those requesting information on relatives atc from the LIverpool City Police I would suggest that you contact us directly using the contact us as we cannot reply on this guest book. Someone may be able to help
Are you able to advise what date in 1836 the Liverpool City Police were officially formed?
My great, great grandfather John ANGUS was appointed as an Inspector on 22nd December 1836.
Glenn ANGUS (SAPOL)
I was told by my late grandmother that her father Frank Bennett was a Sergeant in Liverpool Police. How would i find out?
Barry Jones (A Sergeant in Merseyside Police Police)
I have come across a bronze medal from the Liverpool Shipwreck and Humane society, awarded to my grandfather PC31a Robert McVitty in July 1912. I am trying to find out more about this award. if any one can help please ? I have not been able to track any records of this award or his service in the Birkenhead police force.
I am searching for an uncle who was said to be a policeman in Liverpool possible 1910 - 1950
William Bankier born 1889 in Kirkintilloch Scotland. Another older uncle Robert Bankier served on the LIverpool force, Robert born 1828 Kirkintilloch Scotland and served approx 1850 - 1870 Liverpool, anyone who has found any records of Bankier service please le tme know. Thanks.
My Grandfather, Samuel Cave emigrated from Liverpool to New York in the late 1800's. I am currently a Deputy Sheriff with the Denver Sheriff Department in Denver, Colorado USA. I recently purchased a truncheon with the collar commemorating the Liverpool strike and subsequent riot of August 1919 which prompted me to your site looking for more information. Thank you for the histroy and all the information pertaining to this artifact. It will be a prized addtition to my collection of law enforcement memorabilia.
we met alan kelly during our recent holiday, he kindly gave us this link as we have a german shepherd. we read the description of jlo and we feel it was a wonderful idea, and seems to have stopped some crimes at a young age before they developed into worse crimes later in life. well done to all those officers you made a real difference. louise and david.
This is such a great site and it's plain to see that a great amount of work has been done- My dad (Fred Langley) joined Liverpool Police Force in 1950, and I've loved all the old photos,, well done! keep up the good work.
Found this website after I posted a picture of the old Liverpool City Police Station on Derby Lane. Spent hours looking through it.
Proud to say I served as Special Constable 549'A' (and Acting Section Officer) in the early 1990's based in Stanley Road.
He is listed on the 1911 Census aged 44 years and has a son born 1906
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Can anyone help me find information on William Kebby, he was a sergeant in 1908 but was made sub-inspector that year. He was listed MAY 16 1908
AWARDS BY THE LIVERPOOL SHIPWRECK AND HUMANE SOCIETY
Cons 238A Thomas CLARKE
Cons 285A James O'RAGANHEALEY
Serg 28E Abraham GREEN
Cons 254E John WALDRON
Serg 44H Walter John BURDEN
Cons 103A John WILSON
Serg 30H now Sub Inspector William KEBBY
Cons 251C John Patrick REYNOLDS
Cons 162 D Robert LOCKE
Cons 114E Thomas James GALVIN
Thank you for any help you might be able to give me.
Cons 250 E Peter TAYLOR
Cons 61 F Richard HESKETH
Cons 100G Ernest Charles PONTING
Cons 273 A Edward JORDAN
Cons 136 G Arthur HARRISON
hi there can anyone help regarding a policeman's death maybe under suspicious circumstances whilst on shift? circa 1949/1950. His name was Hall no Christian name known. He was being framed and was with a prostitute and they were both gassed and killed. many thanks.
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What's happened to the guestbook? How have these wierdos managed to hijack it for their own ends?
I found this site and was amazed to find my photograph, taken in 1964, with a little boy. It was for a publicity campaign, and I have a copy on the wall in my hall. It was this photo that encouraged my two sons to join Merseyside Police, one in Traffic and the other in the Matrix team. The site is very interesting and informative.
Great web site to look at. Brought back memories from my service - 1963 (cadet) to 1995. Volume of info/photos incredible.
Neil and Judy, please do send your article/photo to me and i shall see if we can find out any more info for you. email@example.com
How great to see my Great Grandfathers award on your site.
"10s to PC 138 C, Mark YOUNG for having on the 13th inst stopped a runaway horse attached to a float in Wapping. The horse was galloping at a furious rate, the street was crowded with people. Finding that the reins were inside the float the officer managed after running alongside for a considerable distance to jump on the float from behind, and getting hold of the reins succeeded in pulling the animal up. His leg was injured in springing into the float."
Mark Young PC 138 C also received a retirement award March 27 1908 for being in the Liverpool Police Band for 25 years by Mr A.P. Crawley the bandmaster. I would be happy to send you the article. Now if I just knew which one is Mark Young in the 1890 Band photo. Any information is welcomed and please email me direcly.
We. have a photo of the Police Minstrels and Pierrots circa 1910. Does anyone have info on this group as my Great grandad was a member?
Bruce can you email me please, i may have some info for you.
Thanks for the information.
Bruce, ive put a message out on the local NARPO site (National Ass'n of Police Officers). So far this has come back from our member and good friend Peter Delius but you may be aware of it all already.
Apart from some addresses I can't add much more than you have already said.
John was born on IOM circa 1838/40 as were 20 other John Corlett's ! Does not appear (Possibly in digs) until early 1870's when he is resident at 10 Elaine Street off Windsor Street, Liverpool 8. 1880 finds him living at 60 Royden Street. The 1890's find him resident at 52 Dombey Street where he is described as a Police Sergeant until 1897 when he is described as a Gentleman, the term used at the time for a retired. I can find no trace after this and presume he returned to the IOM where he died in 1921 aged at least 80.
I would suggest if you have access to old Newspaper sites just pop his name in and see if any cuttings turn up re him, ie arrests he was involved in etc. "
Hope of use
Thanks for replying.
My relatives name was John Corlett. He came from the Isle of Man and was born around 1840. He was a police officer in 1869 and in 1891 was a sergeant. If there is any information that would be good.
superb site. surprised how many names and faces I recognised from my time there(1963-1980). Nice to hear Johnny Edwards is still around, no doubt still handing out good advice to anyone sensible enough to listen.
Bruce, there isnt an archive as such as service records were routinely destroyed on the 72nd birthday of the retired officer. Many photos too taken by Carbonara who was the official photographer in years gone by were destroyed in the blitz. If you forward the name of your relative to us we can look to see what we have already got. We have managed to help people in the past.
Love the site but hate the font used - barely readable
Is there an archive of records of Police officers from 1870's? I am trying to trace an ancestor records who served as a police constable then.
Great site, lots om memories came flooding back.Thanks
This website will always remember Michael Winner. He provided huge support to the police service and donated a lot of his own personal wealth to support those who had died in service.
You're welcome Lindsay. We cannot comment as I'm sure you will appreciate but please enjoy the site.
And as this police officer is now dead, and has been for a considerable length of time, we do not know his half of the story.
I am sure this site would wish to pay tribute to film director Michael Winner who died today.
Michael, director of the Death Wish movies, instituted the Police Memorial Fund on behalf of serving police officers. As well as practical support for injured officers, he was responsible for the memorial plaque erected for PC Yvonne Fletcher who was gunned down out side the Iranian Embassy.
@Chris Kelly ,thank you for mentioning the George Skelly book which I have read and which I found to be a balanced and unbiased read.I was surprised that my original post appeared to skrike a raw nerve with Dave Wilkinson ,seemingly because my thoughts in regards to a former Liverpool Police Officer didn't have any common ground with his.Chris Thank You for your balanced take on this , and for not removing my post , long live freedom of speech and differing views.
I fully agree with Mr Wilkinson that this forum should not be used as a vehicle for personally attacking former police officers, however justified those attacks may be.
But I would remind Mr Wilkinson that Barry George, Stefan Kitzko, the Guildford Four, the Birminghm Six, Judith Ward and George Kelly, were all tried and convicted according to the procedures of the day, and - apart from Kelly - all would have been hanged if CP had not been abolished, yet all were exonerated by the Court of Appeal.
It is very simplistic to baldly state, as Mr Wilkinson does, that the CCRC rejected my application on behalf of Devlin and Burns, without knowing the full story.
As for writing to make money - I frequently write articles on Crime & Punishment for various individuals and organisations, including the Liverpool City Police website, for no payment and have not received one penny in respect of my 14 years work on Murderers Or Martyrs. In fact I do not even have a publishing contract!
Firstly, I'm surprised to see that this forum is being used to make personal comments about deceased former Liverpool Police Officers. If that is to be the norm on this website then I believe it will be a great pity, and will open the floodgates for others to vent their anger against other retired Officers in respect of perceived miscarriages of justice.
DEVLIN & BURNS were convicted and executed for committing murder. The investigation and subsequent trial was conducted in accordance with the procedures and laws of evidence which were applicable at that time.
I've not read Mr. SKELLY's book and don't intend to do so. However, by by his own admission Mr. SKELLY's claims and revelations have been dismissed by the Criminal Cases Review Commission. That being the case the convictions stand.
Finally, its worth bearing in mind that books are written to make money.
Hi Lindsay, have you read about the Devlin and Burns case in the brand new book from our good friend George Skelly? Its called "Murderers or Martyrs" and available through Amazon or the publisher Waterside Press.
Recent researching of family ancestry revealed "Teddy Devlin wrongly convicted and then hung for the Cranbourne Rd Murder of Mrs Alice Rimmer wasmy father John Devlin's cousin. Making myself a second cousin of Teddy Devlin
I write of my utter disgust at the hanging of "Edward Devlin and "Alfred Burns" on 25th April 1952. I have only recently learnt of the murder and the hangings and decided to pursue information to get some clarification. What has been revealed is that an ex High ranking member of the Liverpool Police Force one Herbert Balmer was behind and ultimately responsible for two innocent young men being hung for a crime they didn't commit.It's sickening to think that he was regarded in such high esteem when in reality he was able to not only witness but facilitate and embrace the death of two young men. I hope this post is allowed to remain on this site..because what I have posted is truth. And I hope that in 2013 unlike 1952 the Liverpool Police are able to honor and uphold the truth with the respect it deserves.
Hi just spotted myself at Bruche in 1979 2nd row 2nd from left. My name back then was Carolyn Creer 5963'c' Division later 'D' Division as Carolyn Morgan.
I come from a long line of Liverpool Police Officers -
My Uncle was Ch Supt 'Barney" Jim Gibb. My cousin was Andrew Gibb (son of Ch Supt Jim Gibb)- who sadly passed away -formerly the Federation Rep.
My brothers Con Christopher Creer 4569 and his wife Mary Creer nee Cloonan- and her brother Tommy Cloonan
Chris Creer's son - Andrew Creer is currently serving as Detective Sergeant in the City Centre
My brother Ch Insp Mike Creer 4039.
I am sure they will have some photographs as do I. I served between 1979 and 1985.
I have enjoyed this wonderful trip down memory lane - seeing such people as Bob Coote of the dog section and Richard Fawcett in the Awards section - whom I trained with at Bruche in 1979.
hi nice to see the old pictues .my Grandad lived at Everton terrace police station he was cheif of police there his name was Thomas Jennings .Ido have a picture of him when he was there .do you have any more picture.s of inside the old place ? my dad told lots about it as he lived there as a boy.
Great to see some old friends on this web site. A long time ago but happy memories. All the ebst to everyone. Tony Dellanzo, Cadet, 69 to 72, Reg Force A division 72 to 75
I was a cadet from Aug 1970 to Feb 1973 and then a WPC before transferring to Greater Manchester to marry a PC I met at Bruche. This brought back great memories.
Great site! Really nice to see "uncle" Alfie's article on my great grandfather Ned Nicholson. My wife's father was 27 year member of the RCMP, so now our kids have mounted police connection on both sides of the family.
Interesting website. Is there any way of searching for info on an officer serving from or before 1881? He was listed as a constable in 1881, a Sergeant in 1891 and a Sergeant Bandsman in 1901 censuses. He was William Murphy.
My grandfather was Ivor Hughes, he joined the police in Liverpool after serving in WW1 and stayed with the force through WW2. During the Liverpool Blitz he helped to look for bodies and survivors in the wreckage of houses. I'd love to find out more about his time with the police.
Great site. It reminds you that you are only part of a continuing story. I would like to still be Liverpool City Police rather than Merseyside. It just sounds better.
What a fantastic website! Stumbled across completely by chance. Very interesting seeing the photographs of haunts old and new...And reading the stories of those who have pounded the beat ahead of me. Keep up the good work!
I was so happy to see the photo of Sgt Wlillie Allanach circa 1900 on your web page.
I had heard we had some kin on Aberdeen police but not Liverpool. My Allanachs came from Aberdeen, immigrated to Canada and then to United States. I myself was a police officer in US and a police chief in a smaller city in New England, 18 yrs, before entering Psych. and education.
I knew I had policing in my blood! One of my sons took the fire route and is serving proudly on the FDNY in NYC.
Found this site by pure chance. Fascinating and informative archive - relevant and easy to use tabs. Great to see the pics of Everton Terrace. Researching my family history and discovered I had a lot of relatives there.
I served in Liverpool City Police 1963-1966 before transferring to Hampshire Constabulary.
It was a nice surprise to find my Photograph of 1963 at Mather Avenue.
Fantastic site. I am serving at the moment in Merseyside.
My Grandfather was a Constable in Liverpool City Police circa 1925 to 1930 but was pensioned off and then took his own life for reasons which we dont know. His name was Alexander Taylor, I wonder if you have any record of him
Brilliant site, every force should have something like this. Great for research. A suggestion I would make to the Merseyside Police is go through the full history of the Force and it's changes. It has a long illustrious history. For research detailed photos and descriptions of uniforms through its history would be fantastic. Other sites that have done that have discovered some surprising one offs that did not last long.
Keep up the good work on this site.
Just read John Edwards' article on the D of E expeditions - brought back some very fond (and some painful) memories. They were great days, the expeditions were hard but left everyone with a great sense of fulfilment. Nice to see that John(ny) is still going strong - he was a great 'Cadet' Sergeant, very strict when required but with a great sense of fun when the time was right.
Ex Sgt 2021 (29F and before that 129G) - left in 1977 and went to Australia. The old photographs bring back many memories.
Hello - excellent site. I am fortunate enough to have the medals (WW1 pair, Police LSGC , WW2 Defence, Bronze City LSGC and Silver City LSGC with 'Over 30 years' bar) to PC 335 'E' George Ernest Hawkes. George joined in 1920, retired 1953 but the Merseyside Archive have virtually no information about him. I have unearthed a little post service information but would dearly like to know about his 33 year career and obtain a photo if at all possible. Thanks
Excellent Police History Site Exactly as it said in the Latest PMCC magaazine well done Brian for setting up such an excellent site Really covers the history of Liverpool City force its redecessors and its successors Thanks and esp of interest to me you have not forgotten the history of the Band means a lot to me the Police Bands.
A REALLY ATTRACTIVE INFORMATIVE SITE PROFESSIONALLY PUT TOGETHER AND A LOT OF HARD WORK HAS GONE IN TO THIS VERY WELL DONE TO ALL CONCERNED
Was trying to get some information on Rose Hill police station for weeks, without success.
Brian produced within an hour. Excellent, thanks again
I contacted Brian with regards to my father Peter, whom I knew was in Liverpool and Bootle Police, Liverpool City police and later Merseyside police. I honestly didnt believe that anyone would remember him as it was such a long time ago, Brian responded within 10 minutes, saying that Dad was his first Sgt in 1970 and even mentioned his Wiltshire accent. Now thats a Copper's memory at work. Brilliant site well put together, hopefully the photo's that I send will be included and make me a very proud Son.
An excellent site, well researched and put together.
Brigeen, Please use the 'Contact us' button at the bottom of this page:
My Paternal Grandfather; John Martin Mullin, was regestered as a Police Constable on the 1901 cencus, he lived at 38 Muleigh Road, Everton. On the 1911 cencus he was a Police Sergeant Clerk, he lived at 25 Landsdowne Place Everton. I am trying to find out an information, for my family tree. I do not know how long he was in the police force. my father said he was an inspector & he remembers bouncing his night stick down the road & getting into trouble for doing that.
Thank you so much for the help with Hugh Hunter of the Liverpool Police Fire Department, and of my gr.grandad Thomas Armstrong a Police Constable in Liverpool, the information is so valuable to my family tree and I can't thank you enough.
If I find any more information or pictures I will be sure to send them to you.
Keep up the good work Brian, we need people like you.
All the best Rosemary (Armstrong) Folco
It was a pleasure to help Gordon.
I'm writing from Ontario, Canada with a very sincere thank you to Brian Starkey, Webmaster.
I'm 73 years old and have been working on the family tree since 1998.
My son Stephen Shaughnessy sent me today the record of my great, great grandfather Robert Shanassy who wason the 1836-38, Liverpool police force.
This is a remarkable find that Brian Starkey found for us and it opens and closes old and new avenues of research.
We are excited and very thankful... yours sincerely, Gordon Shaughnessy...
Sue, Use this page to contact the webmaster:
I have a photo of about 34 people on what looks like a charrabanc trip with a sign reading N.U.P.P.O (Liverpool) 1928. My father (who died in 71) is in it and I have no ides as to why. Anybody with info would appreciate. Thanks.P.S. the photo is stamped Fred Russell PhotographerRam's Head Longton.
I well remember Roly Sant his son I believe, was at one time the longest serving pensioner he used to meet up with Moun ted Patrols in Manor Road wallasey when they where on [patrol
It was nice to see that my Great Grandfather was remembered in this section. Would have been nice to see some of his pictures as I know they have them in Mather avenue. My Great Grandfather was Sgt William Sant
Died 5 August 1916, aged 49
Killed on mounted patrol when his horse was startled and fell on him.
This is a great informative site; the only problem is having the time to read it all, once you start it's hard to close it. The photographs are amazing.
Really well done.
Brilliant site, well done.
My 2nd grt grand father Samuel Kirk was in the force from 1850 till his death in 1870.
Family story has it that he was attacked after the release of a poacher that he had arrested.
He lived in the wst Derby and Toxteth areas.
I have no other information for him as Merseyside Police destroyed most of the records.
Thankyou for the interesting article on William Smithwick.He was the cousin of my greatgrandmother Janet Sullivan Rooney who emigrated to NZ .
The photo of assembled officers at the old Westminster Road nick was very interesting, particularly as it was taken (presumably) on the day the station ceased to be an operational police station, but what I'd like to know is when the following stations closed; Anfield Road, Lark Lane, Rice Lane and Derby Lane. Oh yes, I'd also like to know when Prescot Street closed.
The first three stations I ask about because I've photographed them, the last one I've yet to photograph and the reason why I ask about Prescot Street is that Eddie Hughes (a fictitious officer and character in both of my as-yet unpublished novels) was based there from 1966 to 1977 (I used artistic licence because in reality, back in the mid-seventies, Prescot Street was decomissioned). I look forward to your reply and congratulations on a very informative website.
I was very interested to find this site and to be able to read all about the 1919 Police Strike in Liverpool. My maternal grandfather, Michael Killeen, was a policeman in Liverpool at that time and was dismissed as a result of participating in the 1919 Police Strike. I have his police baton inscribed with the Liverpool Police name. I would be very interested to find more information concerning Michael Killeen - he was stationed in the Kirkdale division I believe.
The link to your excellent site was given to me by a friend/contact on Flickr when I was seeking information on a print I'd bought in London years ago, of 9 'bobbies', I welcome any connection to Liverpool - my father was born and raised there, William Osborne James Pickthorne, (DOB 31-8-1897) but we know little of his early years in the Christchurch Home there (except that dad loved it!!) His aunt lived on 65 Wordsworth St. Your website is a wonderful one and I look forward to seeing more of it.
A BIG Well Done to all those who helped to build such an interesting page.
Keep up the good work !!
Warm Greetings from Malta
Sgt. Joe Borda, Malta Police [Ret]
Please send us the photograph you have.
Hi. I have a clear photograph taken about 1927 - maybe earlier of a Liverpool Policeman - at least I think he is a Policeman. He doesn't have a sort of 'bobbys' helmet but a peaked cap. I wondered if there is any way I can find out if it is a Liverpool Police uniform rather than Fire brigade or something? Any help gratefully received.
I am a retired Leicester City Police Officer (1957 - 1982) and I spent 23 years on the Police Dog Section.
I am very interested in police history. I have only just located your excellent history site' I found it to be most interesting and informative.
Congratulations to all those involved in constructing the site and "Thank You" for helping to keep Police History alive.
My great grandfather, Charles Adams was one of Liverpool's first Police sergeants, something my father was extreemly proud of.
But was he really the seventh man to join the Liverpool Police Force?
The information available is just unbelievable. Why hasn't this information been available in the past?
my Grand father William Evans 251 H lost his job in 1919
Many thanks for your interesting history site, I love to get notification of new pages. My late husband and I were working on a history of the Main bridewll before he died and it's great to see more of the history being saved. Carry on the good work
Peter, we would love your photos. Please send them to us.
What a fantastic site. well done. I've always had an interest in Liverpool City Police as I believe that my grandfather, Samuel Garrett Con 216A became one of, if not the, longest serving officers in the force. He joined in Auguest 1919 (after his two brothers had been sacked following the Police strike) and then served as a constable and in the 1st Reserve until March 1968 (the day before the merger with Bootle Borough) a total of 48 years and 8 months! I have some photos of him if you would like them? Best wishes, Peter Garrett.
I am looking for a photo of Sgt Harold Frederick Claydon, who won a George Medal on 12/13 March 1941 for rescuing 10 people from bombed huses in Adlington Street.
What a great site - well done, I really like the photos and memorabilia sections.
The home page has been ammended.
Hi Brian, Just one small matter regarding the opening gambit, there have been 4 changes of name as the force was originally the Liverpool Constabulary, prior to the town becoming a City circ 1880
Great story about Constable Nicholson posted by Alfie Bramwell.
My uncle Ken Forshaw told me to look at this site which I have done this morning. My father George Forshaw was in the mounted section from 1949-1959 and I think one of the photos is of him. I would like to say that I think this is a very informative site and as given me a look into the history behind the mounted and what it meant to him.
John Hutchinson rang today and told me about the site. He tried to help me around 18 months ago to find out a little more about my Great Grandfather Albert Edwin Haynes, who was quite high up in The City Police around the1920's. Family recollections had it that he left under a cloud, after taking an orange off a traders stall, but I know little else. I have a photo of him in his uniform, but John says that the cap he is wearing with a braided peak, does not match with the cap badge on the cap itself. I hope someone can hopefully shed some light on the subject.
Please email to advise me how I should get my photos on your web page. Many thanks.
Please send me the photos you have.
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